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@Gargron if you ask me, which you didn't, Patreon's issues have always lied in Conte and his partner, the one that does all the work. Conte tells his story about wanting creators to get paid and then his partner who does the coding changes the payment system and people to nuts. Conte had to apologize and they changed it again. You have dreamy Conte with his mission and a real capitalist business behind him.

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